, instead of just cowering afraid of losing the next election, we would have changes in gun laws like we need. we would have, like what you suggest, for example, like closing the loopholes for gun shows. we would have more regulation. i think we need more discussion, not less. and we need to see probably more of the extremists, because that's what's frightening. and the idea that he might have a gun in his hand is terrifying. >> he owns 50 guns, which i found part of the most scary thing. abby, your father ran for president and you know the system in washington better for many. the reason i ask you, i read your tweets today, which were pretty doom laden about this. do you have any hope if it does go to congress, they'll pass anything involving gun control legislation? >> i want to point out, it's not even worth mentioning this guy's name. he does not represent america. this is the same guy that said that the u.s. government is involved in oklahoma bombings and 9/11. so it's just, he really lives in the land of wacky. but, all we're asking for is a rational conversation about gun control.